A cool sounding Fuzz Face derivate. Note that the value of the volume potentiometer is unknown but we found out that 250k or 500k sounding good. Also, the fuzz control is wired backwards per original but if you want a normal counter clcokwise control, just swap 1 and 3 lugs and use a 1kC pot. OC82D transistor might be a bit hard to come by so try others that suits your taste.
Hello - I can't see the resistor going to the collector of Q1. Awesome site by the way.
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DeleteNevermind about my comment above. The layout is the verified one. Q1 collector is connected to 15k through the jumper that is connected to the base of Q2.
DeleteAll good - am I going blind or has the schem and layout been updated?
DeleteI used a C1k and 2n2222a/GT404B. You can try a lot of combos.
ReplyDelete2N2907 and NTE404 for me, and it sounds great!
ReplyDeleteDamnit Anders, every time I start to catch up on my build list you add something I gotta check out. I'm finishing your old layout for the Boozearound right now.
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DeleteIn the D*A*M page I had understood that it is common negative ground... 🤔
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Hmmm, are you sure? All my tracing files indicates that it runs on negative power supply/positive ground. Not sure why they added a DC jack to this one since most of their other PNP fuzzes runs on battry only.
DeletePrecisely! DC confused me....
DeleteWell, you can use a DC jack with negative power supply, just make sure to not daisy chain it or bad things will happen...:-/
Deleteat this link I've posted some picture of the stripboard and I have started a discussion...
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ReplyDeleteQuick question... the output caps on the schematic and layout down match up, which one is correct?
Output cap is 100nF, schematic is now updated.
DeleteJust built it, works well but didn’t really mess with it yet. I also noticed that the layout used 820r and 4.7k resistors as opposed to the 470r and 8.2k ones on the schematic... which ones are correct?
ReplyDeleteThe correct values is 4,7k/820ohm.
DeleteThank for the quick reply. I’ll plug it in tomorrow and let you know how it sounds.
DeleteNot bad, not great either. I used a BC109C for Q1 and a 2N1304 (hFe ~115) for Q2. I read that the 109 was the NPN equivilant to the BC179, maybe it would sound better with a lower gain silicon in Q1, it’s very muffled but not in a good way. I think I’m going to give the Voidmaster a shot next. Fuzz Face/One Knob Fuzz designs with a lower input cap seem to be more of my liking.
ReplyDeleteIt could just be my build or my rig too. DAM layouts never let me down before, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was just my build. Thanks for the layout, I hope you didn’t take that as insulting because it was definitely not meant to be.
ReplyDeleteNo worries, man. it is not my favorite fuzz face iether, Generally I prefer low gain in Q1 and higher gain in Q2, otherwise I feel something is missing...
DeleteVoid Master on the other hand sounds really good, just uploaded a three knob version (internal trimmers on the outside).
Do you think a higher gain germanium in Q2 would make it sound better considering that’s what a conventional Fuzz Face would use?
ReplyDeleteYes, a higher gain ge for Q2 and a lower gain silicon for Q1.
DeleteSo it’s the same concept in a hybrid? I went With NPN transistors, I Googled the BC179 equivalent and came up with a BC109C which is pretty high gain for Q1. Q2 was a 2N1304 that measured about 117 and the bias was about 4.9 volts. I have two CV7007 (I think) from a Hoof I built and didn’t like that measured close to 300 that may sound better with a high gain Q1. Maybe just making it a straight up germanium would sound better? What did you use for transistors in this one?
ReplyDeleteYes, it worked the same for me with the hybrid setup. I ended up with a BC179B (hfe 250) for Q1 and a 2N1309 (Hfe 320) for Q2. Also tried some obscure soviet trannies, P30 (hfe 260) and Gt109V (hfe 560!!!). Also BC559 is the TO92 equivalent of BC179....
DeleteFor an NPN build BC109B/BC549B would work for Q1 and maybe a 2N1306/08 for Q2....
A bet that an all ge build would work as well but the character of the fuzz may be different.
That’s for the info. I dropped in a 2N3391 (260) and a CV7321 (~295) and the results were much better. Not muffled like it was with more clarity but still in the Fuzz Face family. I have another CV7321 (not a 7007 like I thought) so I think I need to rebuild the hybrid Fuzzbud again. I had an A100k for the volume pot but swapped in an A250k and it was also an improvement. I want to try out a 500k but I don’t have any right now. I should do a small order and pick up parts for the Voidmaster. What did you settle in for the volume pot?
ReplyDeleteYeah, I found out that a 250k pot works best, 500k was a bit hefty and bassy.
DeleteHybrid Fuzzbud you say? Tell me more!
There was a layout for it on Tagboard’s forum, it had a fuzz pot and used a 2N1306 for Q2. I used a higher gain Q1 and a 2N1304 for Q2 and it didn’t sound very good. I’ll have to rebuild it with the other CV7321. Maybe just the single knob version.
Deleteso this doesnt work with a regular power supply?
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